There are 5 solutions :

2 commercials by pMachine Inc :

pMachine Pro 2.3
Very powerful, 1st price at $45.00
http://www.pmachine.com/pmachinepro/

Expression Engine 1.0
The most powerful, 1st price at $149.00
(in fact EE was supposed to be the next version of pM but it's so mush innovative / different that it's a brand new tool) (pM stills active, not dead yet)
http://www.pmachine.com/expressionengine/

3 FREE by communities :

b2evolution 0.9 (on monday)
http://b2evolution.net/

pLog 0.3.1
http://plog.bliang.com/

Nucleus 3.0
http://nucleuscms.org/


I'm using all these tools and I assure you they are equivalent to MT by the fact that they support multi blogs, multi authors with permissions and multi templates.

If you do migrate please tell them you've been advised by eSpider, we'll appreciate, thanks.

Please bear in mind that this is a support forum for Movable Type.

Right, so please consider this as an exceptional measure.
We need to communicate.

Maddy, you're right but the word "support" does not exist anymore under the MT3 logics!
and at least, to help others migrate is a kind of support for a better economy and to preserve our honor!

Perhaps you do need to communicate, but is this the appropriate forum for that? I don't think it is. But I'm not going to argue with you, I'm fairly sure that'd be pointless.

The best place for us to communicate is where we all are.
Where do you think it is ?

Yesterday I tried to find a fast solution to set up an independent forum so we could post without your moderation, I even thought to register MT3-Rebellion.org you see...
But I would have to wait 48 hours and the money could be lost.

Maddy aren't you shocked by the choice of 6A ?

if she's getting one for free, she may not even care.

I am a volunteer moderator, not an employee of Six Apart. That said, my opinons are my own, and they can be found on my site. If you want to communicate with me about them, you can comment or trackback. Just like you can with any other MT blogger.

Maddy's right. It's pretty cold to start pushing other blog packages on MT's support forum. I understand a lot of folks are angry and frustrated, hell it's not like I didn't spend some time yesterday ranting about this development, but I think that's been communicated pretty well to the folks at Six Apart just in the trackbacks to Mena's one post alone.

If nothing else we should all be willing to admit that whatever our future with MovableType may or may not be, we've had access to a pretty damned fine bit of software for quite awhile now at little to no-cost. I've donated in the past, but it wasn't any huge amount. A mere $20 to get the Recently Updated key. I've been meaning to donate more ever since, but I keep letting other things get in the way and I'll be the first to admit that MT is definitely worth more than $20.

We should have at least enough gratitude for what we've enjoyed for so long that we can recognize the rudeness of post like this on the SA support forums.

I agree. Everyone knows the other scripts outhere and should really look at them in their own time without the need to post here.

I do agree with direct comparisons if backing up a point, ie. a comparison of limits etc between MT and another blog.

For $20 we've had a bargain. I'd pay more, but not $70 for a product that is still so very much restrictive and with no guarantee of new features that have been so very long requested.

i agree. posting information about other cms's on a 6a payed for bulletin board is completely inappropriate.

Maddy scolds us to "please bear in mind this is a support forum for movable type."

I note from the path above that this part of this 'support' forum which is powered by users and volunteers in in the "product feedback -> non-technical" part of that forum and it seem entirely appropriate to give other users -- many of whom give of their knowledge to others quite freely and without any compensation from 6A (as you well know) -- the chance to point other to other, better and cheaper tools.

If this was located in tips and tricks you might have a point, but, maddy, given that these comments are in a section of the forum quite obviously set up to allow users of MT to talk about things other than the problems of the software.

In this case, the problems of the "company."

And as you well know this has become A BIG PROBLEM for the company overnight.

It is an iron law of the Net that you change a products interface or pricing structure at you're peril. This is a classic example of that rule of the net.

I understand that you feel loyal to 6A and respect that, but I would also suggest the wise thing to do in discussions like this is to simply not comment and let them run their course.

Unless, of course, you are instructed to comment.

reb believes that: " posting information about other cms's on a 6a payed for bulletin board is completely inappropriate. "

That might sway me if it were true, but you have to ask yourself who *exactly* does pay for the board and who *exactly* has *developed* MT and let 6A become a company that *pays* the employees and owners.

It is, in the final analysis, the users as well as the developers that put in these comments and install the software for their content and develop the free plugins that make the basic software valuable to a lot of people.

MT would still be cooking in the Trott's spare bedrooom without the free advice and coding by thousands and thousands of users. It would be, frankly, next to useless and long ago gone down the drain.

I think the loyalty expressed by reb is misplaced. it isn't the app, it is the users.

And hence, I commend those who wish to take a look at alternatives to:

www.textism.com

All the functionality and twice the elegance.

you can discuss blogging alternatives at the forum4bloggers.

http://forum4bloggers.com/

i think that's a little unfair to maddy. this is for "product feedback" regarding movable type, not "what other cms's can we use as we feel 6a just screwed us". maddy's polite suggestion that you discontinue the discussion was hardly unreasonable. there are many other threads in which people are stating their unhappiness with the new licensing schema or whatever the case may be which is where a discussion regarding your concerns about the company itself would probably be better suited. but don't use their space to promote other products. that's just rude.

i'm not expressing loyalty....i'm expressing common sense. you don't walk into best buy and extoll the virtues of circuit city....to suggest that it would be acceptable is ridiculous.

LOL! That reminds me of that great Wendy's commercial they have on TV now with the guy setting up a table outside of a competitor's fast food joint and asking people to try Wendy's food. Then having to pack up the table and run when the owner of the fast food joint discovers him! LOL

I agree with Reb and Maddy. There is a time and place for everything, and even though I'm upset over what's going on and I'm considering other options, this forum is not the place to discuss those options.

That may not be considerate but looking at the context of the issue and the arguments made, 6a has a lot to be thankfull for, for the efforts of many people who are now not quiet happy with then new pricing of v3.

It may not be courteous by its understandable.
Especialy since the licensing conditons and pricing seem to be structured so as to force us to pay more than we want to pay.

I'm staring to think that v2.6 and previous were nothing but "opium" to get us hooked and then "slug" us when the proper thing came out.

You cant blame people for now wanting an alternative, its not that most of us dont know the other products anyway.....it would have been a matter of time if we didnt.

Tony

You're more than welcome to your alternatives, but this forum just isn't the place to advertise them. Use your blog to spread the word.

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Neither have I advertised nor have I mentioned any.....I just pointed out that it was understandable why people would be looking for an alternative....sheesh.


Tony