kgish
Feb 21 2002, 06:19 AM
Kismet,
I am not quite sure I understand what you mean about the scrollbar. Checked your site and it looks just fine to me. If the blog entry is too long to fit completely within the frame, then it seems natural that a scrollbar appears. Otherwise one cannot view all of the content? Maybe I haven't understood your question properly...
brenmae
Feb 21 2002, 07:00 AM
I viewd it using a 1024x768 and it looks fine to me - no horizontal scrollbar. But it does appear when I resize the browser window (make it smaller).
My guess is:
1. the width of the table that contains your blog is set to an absolute value (550). If set to some relative value, say n%, the table would always automatically resize itself to n% of the browser window, no matter what resolution.
2. you're using frames. I haven't tested the above with frames yet, but I reckon it won't work if the page is set within a frame.
Then again you mentioned that everything worked fine when you used gm... so I could well be wrong about this...
Peter McLean
Feb 21 2002, 11:37 AM
Hi Kim,
I checked your site and I get the horizontal scrollbar at 1152x864 res. I changed to 1280x1024 and it disappeared.
I don't agree that it is the banner width because the horizontal movement is within the background table or cell.
It would appear that you might have the table or cell holding your contents frame set at a fixed width.
You should check your coding for this and make sure it is set to "autostretch"
Hope this helps.
Peter McLean
kismet
Feb 22 2002, 01:16 AM
okay, more info

The frames are set at the following... 175, *, 175. Therefore, on a 1024x768 res., that makes 175, 674, 175.
The table is set at 550. I set it to this because a) it should fit the frame just fine as long as you still aren't on 800x600, and b) it's the size I made the graphic a long time ago.
Logically, I cannot figure out any reason why this will not work. It worked just fine when running greymatter. Also, if you view other pages, such as the "about" page, which has the same sized table, the horizontal scroll bar doesn't appear.
Keep throwing up suggestions, I'll tinker around with it some more and see what I can figure out.
btrott
Feb 24 2002, 04:31 PM
Did anything change about your frameset when you moved over to MT? If you put an explicit scrolling="auto" in your <frame> tag, does that help?
broderik
Feb 25 2002, 09:36 PM
I had this EXACT problem on my site before I figured out how to fix it... Luckily, it's an easy fix.
All you have to do is remove the line at the top of all your templates that says
CODE
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
--See, in XHTML, the scrollbar appears on some browsers. In regular HTML, it doesn't. It's amazing how much difference coding in X/HTML makes... :D
kismet
Feb 21 2002, 05:24 AM
for some reason, since making the switchover from gm to mt, a sideways scrollbar is displayed in my main window (where my 'blog' displays).
www.emptywishes.net
I know that I can just disable the sidescrollbar, but then anyone that happens upon my site in 800x600 (god bless those poor souls) won't be able to read it at all (I don't feel bad about making them scroll, but I do feel bad about alienating them entirely).
This may be an actual html problem rather than something relating to mt, but seeing as how it worked just fine before with the same html in gm, I'm confused.
Suggestions are appreciated, thanks
kismet
Feb 21 2002, 06:25 AM
I guess I didn't explain it well enough.
There is a horizontal scrollbar in the main window now. At 1024x768 there is plenty of room for the table that contains the entry, yet for some reason I still see a horizontal scrollbar at this resolution. I'm dumbfounded.
kgish
Feb 21 2002, 07:12 AM
Oh you mean a HORIZONTAL scrollbar, didn't mention that before. Actually, as brenmae already says I do not have any scrollbar either.
Indeed you will get a scrollbar if the table has a set width (cannot view the source code for some reason, so cannot tell you right away) or if there is some image in there that keeps the width just a wee bit too large for some browsers.
I notice that the banner "ewmain.gif" is 550 x 110. Try again by removing this picture altogether, and if the scrollbar disappears then it is obvious that this is the reason. Slowly reduce the width of the banner in steps of 10 pixels until the scrollbar disappears.
Hope this helps...
kgish
Feb 21 2002, 11:44 PM
Kim,
Who is right here? Have you had any good results?
kismet
Feb 22 2002, 05:45 AM
Well, this is odd.
I changed my entry today (as usual), and since the entry is less than the length of my screen, there is no horizontal scrollbar (nor vertical scrollbar

However, I went into the archives (aka clicked on the "more ramblings" link), and discovered that whenever there is a vertical scrollbar, the horizontal scrollbar reappears.
With or without the scrollbar, there is more than enough room to display the table w/text at 1024x768. I don't get it at all.
kismet
Feb 24 2002, 09:40 AM
still no solution to this one... clearly it's an issue with the vertical scrollbar causing a horizontal one to appear, but I still don't understand why or how to make it stop. anyone?
kismet
Feb 25 2002, 03:19 AM
I didn't change anything about the frameset during the switchover, no. At least, not that I know of (being that when I first installed mt it made the blog my index page so I had to reupload my frames, but it should be the same since it is the one I had saved on my computer and I always edit my stuff in notepad and then upload it).
I tried sticking the scrolling=auto in there and it doesn't appear to make any difference.
I guess it's not really a huge deal, as most people prolly won't even notice, but it's bugging the heck outta me.
kismet
Feb 25 2002, 11:05 PM
broderik, you're my knight in shining armor!
thanks to all who offered advice
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